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Throwing Stars (II) - File Description  


Tech: 10
Balance: 9
Quality: 10
FunFactor: 10
Stability: 10
Creativity: 10
Item Placement: 10
Size vs. Usefulness: 10
Installation Instructions: 9

Overall Rating: 9.8

Description:
One of the first things that I thought when I started playing oblivion was 'Where are the throwing weapons?'. Well, there weren't any. But now there are. Guidobot10101's Throwing Stars II adds a host of throwing weapons (25+) to the gameworld, as a standard weapon. You can find them in almost any weapon or even armor store. There are balanced knives, throwing axes, throwing shields, and throwing darts, all in the standard variants (silver, glass, daedric, etc.) I can't tell you how cool it is to throw a huge hammer at the adoring fan. This is the most satisfying mod I have ever used. It is innovative, creative, resourceful, functional, fun, and it all comes in a 90 kb. package. It is a feat of game engineering, scripting, and a huge leap forward for the modding community.

If you need some proof to believe this, here are some videos:

Video 3

Of course, you can't experience this mod through a video. I highly recommend this mod. It is definitely worth the 1 second download.



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THROWING STARS
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Version: 2.0
Author: Guidobot
Contact: [edited for privacy]


DESCRIPTION

This MOD adds a bunch throwing weapons to merchants around Cryodiil. Some of
these are special, with unique properties, while others are more mundane. A
full list is given in the details section below. The some of the original
throwing star weapons may be controlled using marksman powers than you gain
as you raise your marksman skill level (in increments of 20).

Enjoy.

Guidobot.


INSTALLATION

Simply place the ThrowinStars.esp file in your .../Oblivion/Data folder.
When you next start Oblivion, before you press Play, select Data Files and
check-mark Throwing Stars.

If you used Throwing Stars 2.0 and wish to keep your character stats then running
Throwing Stars 2.0 will only really lose you any cash you spent buying the original
Throwing Stars items: Disable the MOD. Load your game. Save your game. Replace the
original esp with the new one. Enable the MOD and off you go.

Just start your game with the MOD selected and various tutorials will help
to guide you as to where to find and how to use these items.

This MOD does not require you to restart Oblivion and should not conflict
with the original Oblivion game nor other MODs you may have installed.


DETAILS

Throwing Skill
---------------
Marksman is the primary skill that governs both accuracy and damage for throwing
weapons. A successful hit will count to marksman skill ups and, hence, player level.
This will increase in a manner similar to using your bow but at an average rate
(less than for major skills but more than for minor). Skill specialization is not a
factor but standard stealth classes and/or the player's current stealth skill will
affectthe rate of experience gain. Base marksman skill also determines when you
learn Marksman Powers, which can be used with enchanted throwing shields.

Agility affects the speed weapons travel through the air and so affects range and
also accuracy, especially over longer distances. Additionally, strength will modify the
effective throwing range, especially for heavier weapons.

The angle that a weapon strikes a target modifies the standard damage it does. A
good attack angle will deliver 100% damage whereas a poor one will only deliver
70% to 90% damage depending on the weapons weight devision. Generally a weapon
that strikes reacts like an arrow and has a chance of being transferred to the target's
inventory. However, a 'blunt end' strike will only do 10-30% and will bounce off of the
target. The strike angle works like real thrown weapons and is dependent on your
distance from the target and a small random factor governed by your luck. This angle
is moderated by your agility and skill in the particular weapon type (see table below)
so at higher skill levels modular distance to the target is less important. Distance is
not a factor for darts and throwing stars, which always strike with a 'sharp' edge.

All thrown weapons do locational damage and the damage will be divided between
health and armor, depending on armor weighting and the particular throwing item.
Stealth enabled throwing weapons will do extra damage depending on your stealth
skill when thrown in sneak mode and the target is not already alerted to your presence.

A list of weapons and their related characteristics is given below:

Throwing Weapon Rarity D/TT Special Attributes
----------------------- -------- ---- ------------------------------------------
Dart of Piercing Common FW/2 Enchanted, Volatile
Dart of Rending Common FW/2 Enchanted, Volatile
Dart of Corrosive Poison Uncommon FW/2 Enchanted, Volatile
Dart of Stunning Uncommon FW/2 Enchanted, Volatile
Dart of Magma Uncommon FW/2 Enchanted, Volatile
Dwemer Throwing Shield Limited FW/3 S&R, Marksman Powers, Block, Chuck
Glass Throwing Shield Limited FW/3 S&R, Marksman Powers, Block, Chuck
Elven Throwing Shield Limited FW/3 S&R, Marksman Powers, Block, Chuck, Skim
Ebony Throwing Shield Limited FW/3 S&R, Marksman Powers, Block, Chuck
Daedric Throwing Shield Limited FW/3 S&R, Marksman Powers, Block, Chuck
Ninja Star Limited FW/4 S&R, Bound, Acid Poison, Soul Steal, Chuck
Mobius Glaive Unique SP/5 Autonomous, Unlockable
Iron Throwing Knife Common LW/1 Melee, Skim
Balanced Iron Dagger Common LW/1 Melee
Balanced Steel Dagger Common LW/1 Melee
Steel Throwing Blade Uncommon LW/1 Melee, Reach
Balanced Silver Dagger Uncommon LW/1 Melee, Skim
Elven Throwing Knife Rare LW/1 Melee, Skim, Infusion Resistant
Balanced Iron Axe Common MW/1 Melee
Balanced Steel Axe Common MW/1 Melee
Iron Tossing Axe Common HW/1 Melee
Balanced Steel Warhammer Common HW/1 Melee, Blunt
Silver Throwing Axe Uncommon HW/1 Melee, Infusion Resistant
Dwemer Throwing Axe Rare HW/1 Melee, R&C, Infusion Resistant
Mortevacho's Hammer Unique HW/1 Melee, Enchanted, B&R, Infusion Resistant

Divisions (D)
-------------
FW: Featherweight (Throwing Stars and Darts)
Agility and marksmanship govern speed, accuracy and damage.
Stealth enabled for throw but no melee attack.
Hand-to-hand enhances direct damage for dart strikes.
LW: Lightweight (Throwing Knives)
Agility and marksmanship govern speed, accuracy and damage.
Stealth enabled for throw.
Blade skill and agility moderate strike angle; strength moderates range.
More effective when thrown vs. melee.
MW: Middleweight (Throwing Axes)
Agility and marksmanship govern speed, accuracy and damage.
Blunt skill and agility moderate strike angle; strength moderates range.
Stealth enabled for throw.
Equally effective when thrown vs. melee.
HW: Heavyweight (Two-handed Throwing Weapons)
Agility and marksmanship govern speed, accuracy and damage.
Strength and blunt skill moderate strike angle; strength moderates range.
Larger strike angle range and knock-back on strike.
Less effective when thrown vs. melee.
SP: Special (Mobius Glaive)
Damage and targetting independent of skills.

Throwing Types (TT)
-------------------
1: Ready weapon (F) and Turpin's Ring of Quickdraw (Hotkey)
- Weapon must be equipped.
2: Speed Equip (Hotkey) and Dartsman Bracers (Block action)
- No weapon equipped (fists up).
3: Block action
- 1-handed weapon must be equipped, drawn or not.
4: Block action with Ninja Gauntlets equipped
- 1-handed weapon must be equipped, drawn or not.
5: Cast using special powers of command.
- No restictions due to weapon equipped/readied status.

Notes: Each throwing type has a different animation that affects the speed you
can (re)throw a weapon. Some weapons may be harder to 'ready' but then have a
correspondingly quicker throw action. Generally, if you are carrying multiple
throwing weapons of the same type, then another will automatically be equipped
after one is thrown (similar to arrows).

Weapon Abilities
----------------
Melee: May be used like a regular weapon in melee combat.
Throwing weapons are generally smaller, lighter and better balanced
than regular melee weapons making them slightly quicker to use but with
slightly less reach and inflicting a little less damage.
Blunt: Truely blunt items always bounce off of surfaces.
Block: When equipped, weapon acts to provide minor defense (adds to AC).
Reach: Relatively longer and more effective in melee combat.
Skim: Flys faster when thrown relative to similar weapons in its class.
Chuck: All weapons of the type equipped may thrown at once.
Volatile: Disintegrates on strike.
Bound: Strongly associated with a container item (will not remain in inventory).
Autonomous: Item is self-animated and only partly under the caster's control.
Unlockable: Item requires certains skills to be used and/or enabled.
S&R: Strike and Return.
Automatically returns to caster's inventory on strike of a creature target.
Items with the S&R ability may not be infused.
R&C: Return and Catch. (Boomerang effect.)
Flys back to caster on strike or when out of range.
Automatically re-equipped if caught in the air.
B&R: Bounce and Return.
Bounces off of any target or surface when strikes then returns to caster's
inventory and automatically re-equips. May result in multiple throw/strikes
when caster is within bounce range of target or surface.
Enchanted: Has a specific enchantment that is (also) effective when thrown.
Acid Poison: Extra health and armor damage on strike.
Such items may be dangerous to touch without protection.
Soul Steal: Life essence may be collected if target dies when stuck.
Charged items may be used to recharged enchanted weapons without loss.
Infusion Resistant: Infusion effects are only partly effective but the item
will not disintegrate on strike.
Marksman Powers: Items respond to special powers that may be gained when the
you have one or more or these items and achieve certain levels of marksmanship.
Some marksman powers require multiple items of the same type to be equipped.

Throwing Weapon Related Artifacts
---------------------------------
Ninja Gauntlets (Unique)
Required to attain and use Enchanted Ninja Stars. Openning the gauntlets from
your inventory causes all out-of-sight bound Ninja Stars to be recalled and allow
you to see how many you have. Only charged Ninja Stars may be transferred to
your inventory. Ninja Gauntlets are inactive for throwing Ninja Stars if you have
a two-handed weapon, no weapon, or a shield equipped. When the gauntlets are
equipped from your inventory any shield will be unequipped and visa versa.
This item only functions as regular gauntlets when speed equipped (via hotkey).
Dartsman Bracers (Uncommon)
Can hold up to 10 darts that may be thrown sucessively from the bracers, thereby
reducing the 'ready weapon' effort. Darts are automatically equipped to the
Dartsman bracers when selected in your inventory or may be transferred in any
number when the Dartsman Bracers are equipped from your inventory. Dartsman
Bracers may only be used to throw darts when in a fists-up stance but otherwise
have the same usage restrictions as Ninja Gauntlets.
Walfo's Gloves of Aeration (Rare)
When equipped this these gloves infuse any throwing weapon with a powerful
skim effect when thrown, allowing heavy weapons to be thrown much further.
Turpin's Ring of Quickdraw (Unique)
This ring is very unusual in that it will not stay on your finger and only has
an effect when speed equipped (via hotkey). When equipped in this way, any
throwable weapon in hand will be immediately thrown.
Varrigfa's Ring of Infusion (Unique)
When equipped, any weapon that is thrown will be infused with a shock magika
that will affect a target on strike, in addition to any other damage and effects
that that weapon would normally do. Typically, a larger weapon (in a heavier
division) will be infused with more energy, delivering more damage on contact,
and will become volatile, meaning it is destroyed on impact. However, some
enchanted weapons are immune to the infusion effect while others may be resistant,
meaning they will infused with less energy and/or survive impact.

Notes on rarity: Unique items are unique and only available for purchase a specific
merchant. 'Limited' means that only a small fixed number of such items exist in
Cryodiil but may be for sale at any merchant. Weapons that are of rare, uncommon and
common occurance will generally be available at most merchants but in corresponding
quantities. Merchants may specialize in the types of throwing weapons they like to keep
in stock. The terms 'rare' and 'uncommon' as applied to throwing weapon related
artifacts refers to how likely you are to see these items for sale. However, you may
have difficulty finding a merchant that is willing to part with one of these items. Just
keep looking at different vendors and even go back after a week or so.


PLAY NOTES

1) Ninja Gauntlets are only fully equipped from your inventory. When equipped
using a hotkey, or when a Throwing Shield or regular shield is equipped,
they will act as normal gauntlets. (This is for both game play and technical
reasons.)

2) The Mobius Glaive is only partly under your control when in flight. You
may need to use the the power of command frequently. To retrieve it you have
to catch it out of the air (tip: try crouching).

3) There are a couple of easter eggs in this game. Note that there are 3 control
modes that you can unlock for the Mobius Glaive, primarily based on your security
skill. There are 6 marksman powers to be gained.

4) When playing with Throwing Shields use the Sense Summon and Recovery powers to find
and retrieve them when distant. Recovery will recover all nearby but requires you be
holding one of the type you want. Sense Summon will summon if cast while your x-hairs
have an obscurred throwing shield targetted. As will the Ninja Gauntlets, the items
will not be retrieved if already in sight.

5) To see your current throwing skill stats, turn the Ninja Gauntlets inside-out,
i.e. put them inside themself ;).

6) The term 'crouch' is used in-game to mean go into sneak mode. The term 'speed-equip'
means using assigning and using a hotkey. The term 'block action' means using a block
key - typically the R-mouse button or Alt. Because of implementation, this also means
using the shift-key or otherwise toggling run mode. The term 'chuck' means an holding
the block-action a little longer (hard-press) to throw a bunch of items.

7) The total potential damage will also be less if you 'chuck' throwing stars
together (imprecisely), although you might be able to hit the target with
multiple stars this way. Ninja stars will do slightly more armor damage and
are more effective when chucked because of their poison acid coating.
(You may charge several ninja stars from one soul this way.) Ninja Stars will
will hurt you if you pick them up while not wearing a pair of Ninja Gauntlets
for the same reason.


KNOWN TECHNICAL ISSUES

1) Most things in this MOD are simulations of the game mechanics via the
limited functionality available through scripting. When an item hits another
actor the reaction might not be quite the same as when hit by arrows or melee
weapons. All item targetting is based on line-of-sight (LOS) and may not work
perfectly when throwing over things or at the surface of some objects they strike.
If you cannot pick up an item, dislodge it with another (thrown) item or retrieve
it with marksman power, then remember that 'lost' Throwing Shields will eventually
turn up for sale again at various merchants.

2) There are some unavoidable equip messages when using Throwing Stars and
when accessing the Ninja Gauntlets from you inventory.

3) When you reload a game where you had a Throwing Shield equipped, you may
see your character holding a corresponding shield when your inventory is up.
This will correct itself when you select a different Throwing Shield or
regular shield.

4) If you have trouble using any of this MOD from a reloaded game, e.g. a
quick-save, you may need to restart Oblivion to reload. It appears that not
all MOD data is reloaded from a "quick-save".


CUSTOMIZATION

You may set the following parameters from the consul window (press '~') using
the command:
set qtstar.<parameter> to <value>
~ (close consul)

chuckTimein
- specifies how many frames the R-mouse key is held down before a 'throw'
becomes a 'chuck'. Default is 15.
throwTimeout
- specifies how many frames the R-mouse key is held down before a throw
action is cancelled. Default is 30. If this is <= qtstar.chuckTimeIn then
the 'chuck' throw action will be effectively disabled.
hitEffects
- specifies the shader efects seen when throwing stars hit a target.
Default is 0. If 1 then no (red) shader seen for Throwing Shield hits.
If 2 then, additionally, no (green) shader seen for Ninja Star hits.
expRate
- specifies the rate experience is gained for throwing star skill
Default is 1.1. A higher value means it is harder to level up your
marksman skill by using throwing weapons.


Throwing Stars (II) - User Comments  
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Total comments: 23 | Last comment: 10-04-2009 at 16:48

 #1 - 01-24-2007 at 18:03
humble_downloader
From:
Joined: December 11th, 2006
Posts: 442
Praise be! I love my morrowind weapons! So many to choose from! Oblivion arrievs and you see a lack of weapons. Crossbows, throwing starts, throwing darts, less variety of weapons all around. Wazakashi anyone? What about a dai-katana?Rock You're bringing morrowind back mate!big grin

 #2 - 01-24-2007 at 21:27
aberneth
From: (Oregon)
Joined: July 31st, 2006
Posts: 248
there are plenty of katanas and dai-katanas out there. Specifically, Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul has at least 15 new dai-katanas. And vanilla oblivion has the akaviri dai katana.

 #3 - 01-24-2007 at 23:01
Daracaex
Joined: January 14th, 2006
Posts: 70
These are awesome!

 #4 - Agree - 01-25-2007 at 07:08
Marik_Ishtar
Joined: October 21st, 2006
Posts: 99
I agree with Humble Downloader! You're awesome

 #5 - 01-25-2007 at 08:06
Tiber_Zann
From: (Ochten)
Joined: January 20th, 2007
Posts: 113
wooooooow verry cool man you did a good chop Two Thumbs Up!Beer! Beer!Rock

 #6 - 01-25-2007 at 08:53
belgtim
Joined: August 30th, 2006
Posts: 75
i hope there is gonna be a next release of this mod with lower issues i dont like mods with many issues but any way 10/10

 #7 - 01-25-2007 at 11:22
GuidoBot
Joined: July 21st, 2006
Posts: 8
Thanks to abernath for putting this up for us.

I just wanted to let people know that there is a bunch of highly stylized game play options this mod offers with the original Throwing Stars items. Most of this is higher level stuff so few have got to see the full scope of this MOD and its intended roleplay elements for assassin and agents wink

Mundane throwing weapons are mostly low level knives and axes, i.e. iron, steel and silver, with a few exceptions. This is deliberate since, like arrows, these items are meant to be cheap and disposable. Special limited quantity items start at higher quality with role-play techniques to help you retrieve them and prevent you permanently losing them.

Everything in this MOD uses stuff already in the basic game. Later versions may include much better models but so far no one has provided any. It is because of this that there are no cross bows and why minature shields have been used in place of more expected throwing star models. (This is also why the MOD size is so small compared to all the stuff it provides.)

Also note that the actual README is correctly formatted fwith respect to the tabulated lists.

 #8 - Throwing /shooting weapons - 01-29-2007 at 12:33
jeniho
Joined: January 29th, 2007
Posts: 2
I conquered Morrowind with a crossbow & high marksman skill, but being a marksman is pathetic in Oblivion; I couldn't complete one of my first fighters guild jobs without being killed time & again, so I went back & rather worked on my destruction skill. How about an add-on where u can create mixed spells like the "Wizard's fury" one got as a little present in the original game. (Magic is just so much cooler in Oblivion than Morrowind as u can shoot spells with weapon in hand.) Anyway, these will still b useful 2 carry around.

 #9 - @jeniho - 01-29-2007 at 13:45
GuidoBot
Joined: July 21st, 2006
Posts: 8
This is not a marksman-fix MOD. There are plenty of other MODs that you can also use suit your needs. My spell MOD is The Lost Telvanni Codex v1.54, although this does not focus on Destruction spells either. At higher levels you can gain Marksman Powers that are similar to spells, basicaly allowing you to throw explosive projectile of different types. These are also not intended to compete with Destruction magic but do allow for role playing stealth/archer based characters that would otherwise not use too much magic.

The current hope is T*3 will be a combo Alchemy MOD; allowing you to both throw many special and spell-like potions and poison (throwing) weapons. This is currently on hold. A minor upgrade version 2.1 should be out soon but this will just tweek/fix a few things.

 #10 - 02-01-2007 at 08:41
MarcusVII
Joined: March 28th, 2006
Posts: 12
The only problem I have is taht they don't work... Help?

 #11 - 02-01-2007 at 10:00
GuidoBot
Joined: July 21st, 2006
Posts: 8
You really need to be much more explicit if I can be of any help. Please PM me to tell me you mean, what MODs you have installed that may conflict, etc.

 #12 - Spears? - 02-25-2007 at 08:49
monkz
From: (Harlow,Essex)
Joined: April 1st, 2006
Posts: 20
C'mon who doesn't like them!?
this mod would be even better with spears, like the ol' morrowind days of the big fish people with spears.
Maybe it would work like Arrows where you can collect them from the dead, and stuff just higher collect rate or something....
I would love throwing a spear as an assain and a Dark brotherhood member.
Never played Fighter guild, although my highest lvl was 71 xD

 #13 - 02-27-2007 at 08:59
monkz
From: (Harlow,Essex)
Joined: April 1st, 2006
Posts: 20
Wrong lvl, i ment 17.
I changed what i wanted to be from pure Brute force to Mage....

 #14 - Version 2.1 released - 03-03-2007 at 20:19
GuidoBot
Joined: July 21st, 2006
Posts: 8
Version 2.1 has been put up at the TESS site and will be up at Guidobot shortly.

This is only a minor bug fix release. When I release T*3 in a month or so I'll put it here.

 #15 - Why Bats sir? - 03-10-2007 at 09:53
buffcode
From: (Chichester West Sussex)
Joined: March 10th, 2007
Posts: 6
All Im gonna say is BATARANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
More (or is that some?) BATMAN based Mods please!

 #16 - Oh yeah - 03-10-2007 at 09:58
buffcode
From: (Chichester West Sussex)
Joined: March 10th, 2007
Posts: 6
Playing cards aswell (joker style)!!

 #17 - TERRFIC! ... but there are bugs - 04-15-2007 at 08:19
LuisJaime
From:
Joined: April 15th, 2007
Posts: 27
Hey, great idea and great work! It's pretty fun.

But i need some help with bugs, and I'm pretty sure they came from your MOD:
When i meet Baurus at Luther Broad's to assault the Mythic Dawn, he casts a restoration spell (he always does it as soon as i enter) and the restoration spells never ends. There's an eternal blue snake just hovering around him! And he's frozen! If anyone has experienced this from this MOD i think Guidobot you should look into it, thanks!

And, does your MOD tweak the health, magicka and fatigue bars in the HUD? I don't know if yours does, but when i uncheck all of my active MODs, except of course for the Oblivion.esm the bars are STILL altered! That's not good right?

please help! and GOOD WORK! thanks

 #18 - @LuisJaime - 04-16-2007 at 10:18
GuidoBot
Joined: July 21st, 2006
Posts: 8
Throwing Stars 2.0 has some bugs but this doesn't actually sound related. (You should update to 2.1 at some time, although 3.0 should be released May/June.)

Throwing Stars does not tweek the HUD. You must have something else in place. For some MODs just disabling the MOD will not completely remove it. You would need to look at the MOD that changes your HUD for uninstall instructions.

Unfortuanately many MODs are prone to the re-load issue: when reloading a game (recently) saved to the cell you are currently in not all quest script and object variables might not be restored correctly. Hopefuly it is not this issue.

Throwing Stars is very modular and should not have conflicts with any MODs unless they are trying to do something very similar. E.g. controlling guard reactions like Ren Guard Overhaul. However, even these conflicts should only stop one or the other MOD functioning completely correctly but not the issues you see. I also haven't had chance to play the whole of OB yet and am not familar with the situation you describe.

 #19 - this is a sirious problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 08-25-2008 at 19:09
alpoll
Joined: August 25th, 2008
Posts: 14
i got my dad to help me to get this to work and now whenever i log in i wait a bit and the scroll pops up saying stuff about the creater of this mod and other stuff and when i hit exit to close the scroll my game crashes

so then i get my dad he does some update stuff then restarts my computer then i try again to do it then the same thing happens

so then i asked my dad again and he told me to try uninstalling it and re installing it and the same thing happens AGAINAaargh!!!

p.s. i was really exited about this mod and now i cant use it Cry

ok so thats all if u have an idea on how to help me without losing the mod u can reach me at

" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.alpoll@msn.comPimp!

 #20 - WTF - 10-04-2008 at 13:49
crk296
Joined: December 5th, 2007
Posts: 7
when i dl this all my mods are gon and everythng is yellow exclimation point plzz help11///?//////mad

 #21 - 11-16-2008 at 02:10
Cle66ish
Joined: November 1st, 2008
Posts: 3
how do you use the ninja stars and throwing sheilds coz iv figured out how to use the knives and darts

 #22 - guidobot? - 10-03-2009 at 17:13
thefreaks
From: (stonyplain)
Joined: October 3rd, 2009
Posts: 12
i absolutely love this mode, except for the fact that i can only find one shop that sells the throwing itemsconfused
i would really appreciate it if you could send me an email guidobot, telling me the stores where they are soldsmile
keep up the good work big grin

my email is http://www.thefreaks@yahoo.com

 #23 - the ring - 10-04-2009 at 16:48
thefreaks
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Joined: October 3rd, 2009
Posts: 12
i cant find the ringAaargh!!!
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