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Total comments: 40 | Last comment: 08-16-2008 at 19:29

 #1 - 08-10-2008 at 00:17
_Nameless_one_
From: (Melbourne)
Joined: April 6th, 2008
Posts: 302
Wow. I've never seen trees with that snow effect...
10/10

 #2 - 08-10-2008 at 01:56
DrPhil
Joined: June 27th, 2008
Posts: 58
Oh My God!
It is beautiful!
Who needs floydian now? xD

Great graphics!
Great view!
Great light!
Great trees!
Amazing sky!

I'm so sorry, but I can't vote any better then 10!
RockRockRock

 #3 - 08-10-2008 at 02:10
Artno
From: (Gdynia)
Joined: July 28th, 2008
Posts: 15
Nothing more to say. 10/10

 #4 - 08-10-2008 at 04:16
SweetPunishment
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Joined: February 7th, 2008
Posts: 370
to #2

And thats the reason why he left... Your just being so rude right now. You can't just treat people like garbagemad

 #5 - 08-10-2008 at 06:07
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
It's partly Floydian's fault that everyone seems to dislike him, and this is because whenever anyone even HINTED that they didn't like his pictures, he flamed them with his characteristic rude and sarcastic attitude, and now he arrogantly left. DrPhil is simply saying "See, Floydian, leaving isn't punishing us."

Anyway, about the pic: 10/10, I've never seen anything like it! The snow is amazing and the detail is astounding, great work! Is that sky from vannila or a mod?

 #6 - 08-10-2008 at 06:42
Victoria G (Staff)
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Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
Wow lets bash Floyd and look here's the manager of the site joining in, so much for following your own rules eh? You know as the management of this site you are pathetic, at least the last lot had a go at cleaning up the comments but what have you done since taking over? Nothing, and while you're at it tell me what the hell this picture remotely has to do with me. Perhaps you should be having a word with DrPhil as to why he sought to drag the argument into another potd thread? Oh wait that would require moderation and doing your job!

 #7 - 08-10-2008 at 06:51
kalia_
Joined: February 15th, 2008
Posts: 56
Wow. Well, we knew Super Llama had problems with Floydian1. I guess now that Floyd's gone he has no reservations about expressing his personal dislike. The level of professionalism in the moderating staff at this site is astounding in its complete & total absence.

Re-read some of the comments on Floydian1's pics. People didn't hint that they didn't like them. Hinting would require subtlety, something that seems a bit beyond the general population here. "2/10 , it has terrible graphics, rubish border, nothing special about it and it looks blurry". Hinted? And Floyd's been rude & sarcastic? Please.

If you read back, you'll see most of Floyd's recent complaints have not been about the comments so much as about the *anonymous* ratings. Read back, and see Rogue Sun's point about *how* folks state their criticisms on these pictures. But are you going to take this opportunity to bash Rogue Sun? Nah, I suppose he's not actually offended your religious sensibiities.

This is a great pic. I'm sure the author was just oh-so-happy to see an argument about some other artist dragged into this thread. If Floydian was such a nobody, why does almost every potd thread here seem to end up revolving around him? Either folks complaining stuff isn't as good as his or bashing him. Even when he hadn't posted for days. It's a little ridiculous.

 #8 - 08-10-2008 at 07:15
Fenskez0r
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Joined: October 28th, 2007
Posts: 116
I actually think losing Floyds pics is a losing situation for us two (us two being myself and Super Llama). We're running out of amazing pictures. We've got a few of Rogues, but not enough to last us, and without Floyd, we're forced to validate some of the less better ones.

You've seen how llama has validated these pictures while I was on vacation, and you all know as well as I do that we don't pictures with low quality graphics, or a pic with the HUD. Those are the pics that get bombed with 2/10. Floyd, when you're pictures were up, they usually never got lower then an 8.0. If it did, maybe it wasn't your best work.

This pic, is pretty good. I like the snow, but... I personally don't like sunrise pictures.. 8/10

 #9 - 08-10-2008 at 07:20
Victoria G (Staff)
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Posts: 349
Actually you got no Rogue pictures Fenskez0r, look a few potds back he pulled permission for you to upload anymore.

 #10 - 08-10-2008 at 07:22
Victoria G (Staff)
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Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
Look at post #19 in 'Biblical Power'.

 #11 - 08-10-2008 at 07:36
kalia_
Joined: February 15th, 2008
Posts: 56
"...we don't pictures with low quality graphics, or a pic with a HUD."

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/97149

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/93277

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/89411

(we'll skip the oblivion online one, as perhaps the hud is part of the point of the pic)

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/91132

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/102088

http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/potd/75962


That's just from the first few pages. So, yeah - good luck with that.

 #12 - 08-10-2008 at 07:59
Happy_Russia
From: (New Jersey)
Joined: November 7th, 2007
Posts: 197
You guys are acting as if not seeing Floyd's or Rogue's pics is the end of the world! Come on, they're pictures...not vital parts of your life! Well, maybe for some of you guys....

Anyhoo, this is what a beauty shot is meant to look like. The snow is shiny, the trees crisp and frosty, and the sky is just gorgeous. Can't go lower than 10.

10/10

 #13 - 08-10-2008 at 08:57
SweetPunishment
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Joined: February 7th, 2008
Posts: 370
There's more about it Russia the arrogance of the site is growing by the minute now even the moderator is picking sites... I'm just so sick of this endless bashing of floyfians work. This site has grown intollerant for me because everyone hates it when someone is better than them. And they start bashing the one who made the pic. Floydian as an example... So quit bashing him and his pics get a grip on your grey mass called a brain!

 #14 - 08-10-2008 at 09:07
SweetPunishment
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Joined: February 7th, 2008
Posts: 370
Oh and one thing for dr. Phil why Roguesun and not Floydian they have the same genre of pics (my oppinion)

 #15 - 08-10-2008 at 09:23
BaconWarrior
Joined: July 13th, 2007
Posts: 325
Lol its sort of sad how the doom 3 community isn't having any conflicts. And that over here its apocalypse

 #16 - 08-10-2008 at 09:51
DrPhil
Joined: June 27th, 2008
Posts: 58
Hello everyone!
I am so sorry I mentioned Floydian in my post!

If I was Riles_Lek I would be happy about that comment, since that means that this picture was almost as good as floydians pictures.

I am so sorry that I have spoiled this PoTD with mention floydians name, and I shall never ever mention him again, I shall not treat anyone "like garbage", I shall not get the manager of the site to think like me ever again, I shall not either dragging old stuff back to new PoTDs, I am sorry that I had argued about another author in this PoTD I shall not do that again and I shall not do any other bad thing I may have done.

#14 I like RogueSuns and Floydians pictures!
That's why I think that comment about him I did was such a compliment.

I am so sorry about this!

I shall now post the comment I made (#2) on a better way:

Oh My God!
It is beautiful!
This is just as good as any of the picture a-good-author-who-have-posted-here-before have done!

Great graphics!
Great view!
Great light!
Great trees!
Amazing sky!

I'm so sorry, but I can't vote any better then 10!
(3 Rock's in a row)

 #17 - 08-10-2008 at 10:17
Orchidea
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Joined: May 29th, 2008
Posts: 237
Finally, One of the best POTD's i've yet seen.

+ Great effects
+ not excessive photoshop/somethinglikethat bull*****. (waves at floydian and his pal.)
+ Great gfx (although not the point)
+ Artistic
+ Reminds me of my homeland in winter. (Finland)

anyway, from 1-10, ill give this 15.

 #18 - 08-10-2008 at 10:27
kalia_
Joined: February 15th, 2008
Posts: 56
#16 - there's a difference between saying "Wow, this is as good as Floydian's pics" and saying "Who needs Floydian now?"

#17 - How many times does Floydian have to say he doesn't photoshop his pics before y'all start believing him? He sometimes adds a minor touch of softglow to 'em, but that's usually *it*. He has a kick-ass high end system, he uses a buttload of interesting mods, and he's very creative not only in using those mods but in using vanilla resources as well. You can dislike him (as so many here apparently do, including the management), you can dislike his style of pictures (which this picture is actually similar to - not saying derivative, saying they're in the same style), but please drop the whole "over-photoshopped" bs.

 #19 - =}The End{= - 08-10-2008 at 10:38
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Well obviously you all seem to dislike what I've done so I'm thinking I should step down very soon... apparently my "approval rating" is as bad as some of the potd's I've validated so lets just get this over with. I'm rather annoyed, but I would prefer the people get what they want without a stupid, under-qualified, hypocritical, and religious llama bossing you around. I officially apologize to anyone I've offended, and will immediately begin looking for a replacement. I've tried to be nice but apparently during this crisis I have failed you all. Everyone seems to hate my opinions about dencency so I'll just let you have your way. I didn't expect my 'reign' to end as soon as Cometgames13's but obviously it's what you all want. Most of the time I've been criticized for EXCESSIVE moderating, but now you say I haven't moderated enough? Well then, I'll find someone else to take this position as this site is obviously ruled by all the rude people who abide here, and will never be what it once was. I definately don't want to end this with hate and hostility, and I would ask that everyone forgive me for my many stupid mistakes. I'm trying to do this and remain as much dignity as possible, and the thought of what this site will become since obivously no-one can appease the rediculous appetites of everyone literally brings tears to my eyes.

I really don't want to give up this job, and I love this community, but it has become impossible to exist peacefully here. I highly doubt that anyone will oppose this decision so I'm not even going to ask, but I WILL read any more comments made, and when the decision of my replacement is made, I will post a news item about it.

I'm very stressed out now and I'm upset that it had to end this way, but sometimes that just has to happen. You've all ruined my appetite to lead so I'm trying to quietly, maturely, and directly do my job: give you what you want, which, in this case, is a new manager.

Your little mutany was successful and I'm very sad to have to do this, but...
I'm fed up with trying to please you, as it is obviously impossible. You've hurt me, I just wanted you to know that.

Guess what though? You got what you wanted, and that's obviously all that matters.

in short:
Goodbye. You were a good community in the short time that I was with you.

 #20 - 08-10-2008 at 10:51
Victoria G (Staff)
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Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
Excessive moderating? I don't think I've once seen you intervene and clean up a potd, or remove a comment. I think the problem here is you got your little manager badge and went 'hey look at me I'm gonna make this site great again' but when push came to shove you never once acted on anything. And on the this thread you showed your true colours, I knew you harbored a deep hatred of me and you just could resist temptation to stick the boot in

 #21 - 08-10-2008 at 10:55
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
You apparently have the wrong idea; I never harbored a deep hatred, I simply defended myself against your deep hatred against me. I seriously want to forgive you once and for all and get rid of all this pain that our petty fight has inflicted on both of us.

Please forgive me, I admit that I expressed alot of what seemed like hate even if it was only in defense. I'm sure that you never wanted any of this to happen...

 #22 - 08-10-2008 at 10:55
Victoria G (Staff)
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Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
For example, this particualar potd you should have just simply removed the comment in post #2 and said something like 'this is nothing to do with Floydian1 lets not start all this again' and that would have been the end of the matter. But what did you do?

 #23 - 08-10-2008 at 11:01
Victoria G (Staff)
From:
Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
I'm sure alot of you folks go on ESF/PES/NEXUS to and see all the amazing screenshots posted there, and I'm sure you all know I and Rogue Sun are just a drop in the ocean when it comes to screenshots, heck there are alot better screens out there than mine. Now ask yourselves why aren't any of them posting them here? Perhaps they found out long ago it was open season on anyone who made any sort of effort with their screens here? You think?

 #24 - 08-10-2008 at 11:08
kalia_
Joined: February 15th, 2008
Posts: 56
Floydian1 has no deep hatred of you. He didn't even know who you were till you attacked one of his pictures - and him - on "religious grounds". When you started your moderating job, I personally had doubts about how it would go, but you seemed at first to have a pretty open mind about it.

But what happened here? The first chance you get, you launch into a *personal* attack against Floydian. You call him rude, sarcastic & arrogant. Someone calls you on it, and you launch into martyr-dom.

During your moderating term, Floydian's not been launching attacks against you. There's been nothing for you to defend against. He complains about the anonymous voting, and when you say the site admins won't do anything, he rightfully places the blame at their feet. You talk about setting a different tone, but the same insulting comments start being made about the pics posted here (not just his) and still nothing is done - and he complains about the comments, not about you as a person. You did *not* respond in kind.

 #25 - 08-10-2008 at 11:23
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Ok, I never knew that part. I always thought that because of that one comment on his picture that he had hated me ever since, and I REALLY want to end this fight. Both of us are fighting on false ideas of the other person; I seriously thought that Floydian hated me... I now realise that he never did, and I plead with him to realise that I never hated him either. I also realise that I did commit the initial offense, and for that I am sorry although my beliefs still stand. I shouldn't have imposed them on the people that way. I humbly admit my wrongdoings and plead desparetly for the forgiveness that I obviously don't even deserve.

About the moderating: The reason I was trying to be open minded is because everyone hates me for excessive moderating on other sites and forums, so I tried to give the people what they wanted, and in doing so, I apperently didn't moderate enough at all.

About the voting: RIGHTLY??? How could you possbly say that the blame for the anonymous voting is RIGHTLY placed at my feet? I tried all I could, and all I got was admins cursing at me (literally) and yelling about free speech! I told you there was nothing I could do and you didn't accept that as an answer.

The fault is not entirely mine nor entirely yours. Please note that I've honestly tried to end this fight several times, and yet it continues. I'm seriously sorry for post #5, I don't know what got into me. None of the posts above show my supposed true colors... I think more than anything that the thing that accurately expresses them is the following official statement: "I'm sorry, please forgive me. I wronged you, you defended, and the whole fight was a wild fight for defense on both sides, and I seriously want to end this argument. As soon as this argument is settled, I'm leaving to prevent any further arguments from arising, and I am truly sorry for all the rediculous unnecessary flaming I've done in the past. I should probably ban myself for breaking rule 5."

Please let this fight end.

I now drop my weapon and armor and let you decide my fate. Since my offenses were primarily against you and kalia, you should be the ones to determine my 'punishment.'

 #26 - 08-10-2008 at 11:29
kalia_
Joined: February 15th, 2008
Posts: 56
"rightly placed at THEIR feet" - Rightly placed at the feet of the administrators, not you.

You behaved like a donkey, you've admitted that, you've apologized. Far as I'm concerned it's over. I don't punish people - unless they ask nicely. wink

 #27 - 08-10-2008 at 11:30
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Oh!!!! I thought that said YOUR....... very very very very very sorry... once again I donkied myself Cry

 #28 - Delete? - 08-10-2008 at 11:31
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Let's just start over and delete these comments...

And btw by punishment I mean whether I stay or go

 #29 - 08-10-2008 at 11:32
Victoria G (Staff)
From:
Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
I wish to end this to, and i wish to post screens again, I enjoy making screenshots and showing them. I think you misread kalia's post she's not blaming you for the anonymous voting, as I commented on another potd I accepted this discision was being made from the powers that be at Filefront. My only wish is to see the people that make stupid halfwitted comments with deliberate provoking ratings (as Rogue has said on previous potd's) delt with by the moderators.

 #30 - 08-10-2008 at 11:34
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Okay, I see the whole picture now. As I said, I'm a stubborn idiot so forgive me... can I delete all the posts that have to do with it?

And maybe now that we stopped fighting we can actually be friends...

 #31 - 08-10-2008 at 11:40
Victoria G (Staff)
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Posts: 349
I would like my comments to stand, personally I get the impression wiping just makes it easy for people to assume 'oh look Floydian being all nasty against the poor moderator again' I want this left here to show I didn't start this and merely defended myself.

 #32 - 08-10-2008 at 11:42
Super_Llama
Joined: April 16th, 2007
Posts: 476
Ok... I won't delete them, but you never decided on the latter part of post 28

 #33 - 08-10-2008 at 11:49
Victoria G (Staff)
From:
Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
Well that's hardly my decision, only you can make that decision. I would say I have no problem with you running the place, just actually run it and actually deal with stuff.

 #34 - 08-10-2008 at 12:08
mike3409
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Joined: June 22nd, 2008
Posts: 65
So, what's up now? Everybody gonna work and play well together?

 #35 - 08-10-2008 at 12:45
Victoria G (Staff)
From:
Joined: March 2nd, 2007
Posts: 349
Well after all that I should actually rate the picture, a very beautiful and artistic picture. 10/10

 #36 - 08-10-2008 at 15:33
Fenskez0r
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Joined: October 28th, 2007
Posts: 116
About time. smile

 #37 - 08-11-2008 at 03:56
_HENG_
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Joined: February 6th, 2008
Posts: 29
LOL.. honestly i frequently visit the potd forum just to read the quarrels with each other.. its kind of.. entertaining actually. hahaha. But its still nice if everyone can peace out though... wink

 #38 - 08-11-2008 at 08:46
cbrk91
Joined: August 8th, 2008
Posts: 7
nice picture, i just never been a fan of landscape pics. 8/10

 #39 - 08-11-2008 at 20:29
RuTz101
From: (the awesome one)
Joined: July 16th, 2008
Posts: 106
well i'm glad thats over. this was supposed to be comments about the picture and it turned into a war zone about what turned out to be nothing at all

anyways nice pic i give it a 9/10

 #40 - 08-16-2008 at 19:29
king0fblad3s
From: (Middletown, CT)
Joined: August 2nd, 2008
Posts: 3
cool pic 10/10



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